FILE - In this combo image of file photos shows the five main negotiators representing the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, FARC, in the peace talks with the Colombian government, from left: in a Sept. 4, 2012 file photo Marco Leon Calarca; in a Nov. 8, 2007 file photo Ivan Marquez; in a Sept. 4, 2012 file photo Ricardo Tellez; in a Jan. 13, 2002 file photo Simon Trinidad; and in a Sept. 4, 2012 file photo Andres Paris. The faces and names of the negotiators for Colombia's main leftist rebel movement, who open peace talks with government on Monday in Norway, are largely unfamiliar to their countrymen. (AP Photo/Files)
FILE - In this combo image of file photos shows the five main negotiators representing the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, FARC, in the peace talks with the Colombian government, from left: in a Sept. 4, 2012 file photo Marco Leon Calarca; in a Nov. 8, 2007 file photo Ivan Marquez; in a Sept. 4, 2012 file photo Ricardo Tellez; in a Jan. 13, 2002 file photo Simon Trinidad; and in a Sept. 4, 2012 file photo Andres Paris. The faces and names of the negotiators for Colombia's main leftist rebel movement, who open peace talks with government on Monday in Norway, are largely unfamiliar to their countrymen. (AP Photo/Files)
A poster with an image of missing army sergeant Hector Velasquez sits at the Bolivar's square during a protest organized by activists and relatives of people allegedly disappeared by rebels, in Bogota, Colombia, Sunday, Oct. 14, 2012. Demonstrators demanded participation in the peace talks between Colombia's government and Colombia's main leftist rebel movement, FARC, that will start on Monday in Norway. (AP Photo/Fernando Vergara)
A man shows a photo of a missing person during a protest organized by activists and relatives of people allegedly disappeared by rebels, in Bogota, Colombia, Sunday, Oct. 14, 2012. Demonstrators demanded participation in the peace talks between Colombia's government and Colombia's main leftist rebel movement, FARC, that will start on Monday in Norway. (AP Photo/Fernando Vergara)
People demonstrate during a protest organized by activists and relatives of people allegedly disappeared by rebels, in Bogota, Colombia, Sunday, Oct. 14, 2012. Demonstrators demanded participation in the peace talks between Colombia's government and Colombia's main leftist rebel movement, FARC, that will start on Monday in Norway. (AP Photo/Fernando Vergara)
BOGOTA, Colombia (AP) ? Absent from the peace talks opening in Norway this week between Colombia's main leftist rebel movement and the government will be the guerrilla heavyweights who presided a decade ago over the last attempt to end a conflict that has claimed tens of thousands of lives over nearly half a century.
Either they are dead, mostly killed in military raids, or believed to be in the field commanding an insurgency badly battered by a Colombian military fortified by years of U.S. financial and logistical support.
This time, most of the faces and names of the negotiators for the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, are little known to their countrymen. And unlike in the last talks in 1999-2002, the rebels this time enjoy no safe haven. President Juan Manuel Santos would not agree to one.
Both parties to the negotiations were keeping a low profile heading into the talks at an undisclosed location outside Oslo. There is no media access and even the hour and date of the first meeting are uncertain, though a news conference is set for Wednesday.
The rebels, meanwhile, have offered only a vague sense of what they will demand in exchange for laying down their arms, beyond land reform and guarantees of safety for fighters who demobilize.
On Sunday, about 200 people rallied in central Bogota to demand an accounting from the FARC for relatives kidnapped by the rebels and never released.
Andres Pastrana, who presided over Colombia's last round of peace talks that ran nearly the entire length of his 1998-2002 presidency before collapsing in discord, is among Colombians who wonder why two still-powerful commanders who took part in the previous negotiations, Joaquin Gomez and Fabian Ramirez, will be absent from the Norway talks.
"The question we have to ask is: Is the FARC monolithically united behind this process?" said Pastrana, who met secretly with legendary FARC founder Manuel Marulanda in 1998 to arrange the last round of talks. "I don't have that very clear. Let's hope it is."
The FARC negotiators, whose discussions with the government are to move to Havana later this month, include one member of the rebels' ruling six-man Secretariat, Ivan Marquez, as well as Marco Leon Calarca, the rebels' public voice during the 1990s.
Another negotiator, Ricardo Tellez or Rodrigo Granda, was seized in 2004 by Colombian agents in Venezuela but freed by the Colombian government three years later as a good-faith gesture to encourage the FARC to free all its "political hostages."
The rebels released their last such captives in April, meeting a condition of the agreement under which secret preliminary talks began on Feb. 23 in Havana.
The only top FARC negotiator well-known to Colombians, Ricardo Palmera, is serving a 60-year sentence in the United States. A former banker, he gained fame during the last talks.
Colombia's chief prosecutor has said that Palmera could be allowed to participate in the Oslo talks via teleconference from a prison in Colorado.
Palmera was convicted in the abduction of three U.S. military contractors whose surveillance plane crashed in rebel territory in 2003 due to mechanical failure. The three men were rescued in July 2008 along with former presidential candidate Ingrid Betancourt in a sophisticated ruse involving Colombian commandos posing as international relief workers.
Many of the FARC's former top leaders have been killed by the military in raids that began tipping the conflict in the government's favor in 2008.
Marulanda died of an apparent heart attack in 2008 just after its chief spokesman at those talks, Raul Reyes, was killed in a cross-border military raid into Ecuador that briefly brought regional tensions to a boiling point. In September 2010, the group lost its undisputed field marshal, Jorge Briceno, or Mono Jojoy, in an air assault on his jungle hideout. And Marulanda's successor atop the FARC, Alfonso Cano, was killed by Colombia's military last year.
The rebels' footprint is also much diminished, though the insurgents have stepped up hit-and-run attacks in recent months, particularly on oil installations.
While the FARC operated in more than half of Colombia's 1,102 municipalities at the height of its strength in the 1990s, its activity is now focused on just 70 municipalities, the Defense Ministry says. The FARC's current top commander, Timoleon Jimenez, commands an estimated 9,000 rebels, a force depleted by desertions from roughly twice that number a decade ago.
Jimenez acknowledged on Sept. 4, when both sides announced the formal peace talks, the damage inflicted on his organization by the U.S.-backed military buildup that began in 2000 under Pastrana and was intensified by his successor, Alvaro Uribe, for whom the country's current president, Santos, served as defense minister from 2006-2009.
"Let us seek dialogue, a bloodless solution, an understanding through political means," Jimenez, 53, said in an interview published last month by the Communist Party weekly Voz.
The weekly's editor, Carlos Lozano, says it is crucial to the FARC that if its fighters lay down their arms and enter politics they are not hunted down and killed as some 5,000 partisans were in the 1980s from the rebels' then-political arm, the Union Patriotica.
While Colombians are weary of the decades-long conflict, the FARC's leftist politics remains anathema to Colombia's ruling elite. The peasant-based insurgency grew out of a 1950s agrarian self-defense movement that later fused with communist activists who the U.S. government helped suppress.
The agreement signed Aug. 26 in Havana setting the peace talk agenda says the goal will be to achieve "economic development with social justice" for the great majority of Colombians. It prioritizes access to fertile land for the rural poor, full political rights and the end of rebel participation in the illegal narcotics trade.
While the last priority is the government's, the others are FARC goals, Lozano said. The government accuses the group of being financed by the cocaine trade.
Colombia is a land of deep inequities. Much of its countryside is controlled by cattle ranchers who in the 1980s formed far-right militias to defend themselves against rebel kidnapping and extortion.
More than 1.2 million people have been forcibly displaced in the past five years and 5.2 million people since 1985, mostly by the far-right militias, according to the CODHES independent rights group.
Sixty percent of Colombia's fertile land is in the hands of just 14,000 landowners while 2.5 million peasants together own no more than 20 percent, according the Alejandro Reyes, director of Colombia's INCODER land reform agency.
Former President Belisario Betancur, who attempted to make peace with the rebels during his 1982-86 term, says he's optimistic this time around. But the 89-year-old Betancur says he's not sure how FARC demands for a more equitable society and for attacking rural poverty can be met quickly.
"Governments can't satisfy FARC demands by decree," he said. "Imagine. That would be childish, a utopia."
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Associated Press writers Cesar Garcia in Bogota and Frank Bajak in Lima, Peru, contributed to this report.
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